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Ioan:Adoptiile s-au sistat din cauza unor sarlatani ca Vali Nas din Bucuresti, Floreascasi escroaca sa so
Vineri, 12 Octombrie 2007 01:34

Iata de ce s-au sistat adoptiile si cine sunt vinovatii, care au facut bani din asta transformand adoptiile in industrie si facand din asta si intermedieri de adoptii peste un miliard de USD incasari la peste 30000 de copii scosi din tara:

Vali Nas din Bucuresti, omul de legatura al retelelor de adoptii
internationale

S-a facut bine ca s-au interzis interzis adoptiile internationale
pentru ca in spatele lor faceau miliarde traficantii de copii orfani.
Unul dintre oamenii de legatura in afacerile cu copii orfani
exportati din Romania, este Vali(Valentin) Nas din Bucuresti, un
ipocrit impostor care pretinde ca face lobby in favoarea adoptiilor
ICA(internationale), dar de fapt face legatura oamenilor interesati
din afara tarii sa cumpere copii din Romania pe care ii vind cu poze
dupa culoare. Pe impostorul asta ipocrit Vali Nas, infractor inca in
libertate ca multi altii din Romania, unde se profita de lipsa de
vigilenta a autoritatilor, il gasiti demascat aici:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romania_eu_list/message/37182
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romania_eu_list/message/37490
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romania_eu_list/message/37124
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romania_eu_list/message/37491
http://www.mail-
archive.com/romania_eu_list@yahoogroups.com/msg09485.html
http://www.mail-
archive.com/romania_eu_list@yahoogroups.com/msg11351.html

http://www.mail-
archive.com/romania_eu_list@yahoogroups.com/msg17514.html

Faptul dl. Nas o acuza, o jigneste, etc. pe "Baroneasa" este mai mult
decat normal.
L-a dat in vileag !
Cititi pozitia personala a "Baronesei" DESPRE dl. NAS, pe la
sfarsitul materialului la:
http://www.vivid.ro/index.php/issue/78/page/opinion

Domnul Vali Nas, declara ca nu se "ocupa" in nici nu fel de adoptii
si ca nu are nici o legatura cu paginile web in care o doamna explica
cum s-a ocupa familia Nas de problemele sale de adoptie. Si in plus
povesteste si ce bani i-a dat sotiei dl. Nas, ca sa cumpere diverse.
Poate ca doamna respectiva minte, nici nu exista si paginile
respective sunt "montate" de dusmanii domnului Vali NAS. :)

Iata ALTE PAGINI DE MULTUMIRE pentru domnuil Vali Nas si sotia sa
Mariana, insotite de fotografiile in care adoptatorii sunt alaturi de
familia NAS !
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rikk/sets/538287/
"Mariana and Vali Nas, our kind hosts in Romania. Mariana is a former
doctor that now owns a B&B (Bed and Breakfast) and helps foreign
families with adoption issues. Vali is an engineer and moderate of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Adica pe romaneste "dragutii care s-au ocupat ca sa ne descurce cu
diverse probleme legate de adoptie si pe care ii punem pe web ca sa
stie si alta lume ce multumiti am fost" ! Probabil ca domnul si
doamna Nas au fost niste gazde dragute la pensiunea doamnei Mariana
Nas:

http://www.pensiuni-vile.ro/detaliu_spatiu.php?id=272

Sau poate nu, dar este clar ca se ocupa de adoptii si urmarile lor !!!

Pagina a fost creata de Rikk Carey, Los Altos, USA, persoana ce a
adoptat un copil din Romania si a fost multumit de serviciile oferite
de familia NAS.

Domnul Rikk Carey, declara ca poate fi contactat la:

http://www.plaxo.com/about/management_team

Unde aflam ca:

Rikk Carey is the Executive Vice President of Engineering and
Operations for Plaxo. Rikk joined Plaxo in March 2002 as its first
employee and was instrumental in bringing the company from its
inception, to its current success as the market leader. He brings
over 20 years experience in engineering, product development, and
management to his role. Rikks previous senior management positions
include General Manager at Yahoo!, Senior Vice President of Product
Development at eGroups, an early founder of Listen.com, and Senior
Director of Engineering at SGI. Prior to SGI, Rikk served at
Vertigo/Cubicomp as Architect and Director of Engineering.

(adica un om cu BANI ! )

Albumul reuniunii familiei Carey, cu familia adoptatei din Romania
incepe cu fotografiile doamnei si domnului Nas impreuna cu
adoptatorii.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rikk/sets/538287/

Probabil ca nu sunt decat alte pagini "montate" de mine sau
alti "dusmani" ai domnului Nas.
Dar cine este "interesat" il poate contacta personal pe dl. Carey ca
sa ceara "referinte" despre servicii si preturi. :)

Paginile au fost salvate pe un CD, sigilat intr-un plic ce a fost
trimis prin posta, (data si continutul este important) de
subsemnatul catre subsemnatul.
Plicul constituie proba ce poate fi deschisa in instanta.

Daca dl. Nas citeste sau nu acest post pt. ca s-a retras, este
irelevant. :)
Relevant este ca mai devreme sau mai tarziu adevarul iese ca uleiul
la suprafata.
Daca dl. Nas o sa fie sau nu implicat intr-un proces cu adoptii
internationale "manarite" nu are nici o importanta pentru mine.
Pentru mine conteaza un singur lucru: lobby-ul pe care il face este
din interes material si domnia sa nu este decat un profitor care a
trait de pe urma adoptiilor !

Persons: Barones Emma Nicholson to Winterbourne, Vali Nas (Valentin Nas) (Liviu Valenas)

Fostering interest

Opinion

Fostering interest

By: Brian Douglas

Foster care - which is available throughout Europe including in Romania - is a viable option for children in need of care; moreover, it is preferable to national adoption

Posted: 16/04/2008

Persons: Robin Nydes, Francois de Combret (Francois Polge de Combret), Claire Gibault, MEP, Maud de Boer-Buquicchio, Jean-Marie Cavada, Vali Nas (Valentin Nas) (Liviu Valenas), Linda Robak, Simona Stewart

8th Romanian Trip Part I

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Last August, my husband and I, accompanied by two of our four adopted Romanian children, spent a wonderful two weeks in Romania. We traveled, visited birth families, and saw on that occasion Roman ruins, the beautiful Turda Gorge and an ancient salt mine.

I began to write of this visit on the e-group but time, commitments (disorganization?) got in the way and I never did finish my story. Suffice it to say, it was yet another wonderful trip, made even more so by having Vali and Mariana as our friends and guides along the way. We alsomanaged an adoption of a different kind during that trip – bringing back to Canada an adorable six-month old street dog. Mica, who appears to be mainly Jack Russell, is now the Ruler of Our Household and definite boss over our Doberman, Kysar.

I vowed on that trip, having seen more of Romania that most Romanians during my seven visits there, that I would never again return as a tourist but instead try to help or volunteer in some way on subsequent visits. Although much progress has been made throughout the country – this is most visible in the reduction of air and street pollution and seeing the ever-encroaching spread of western influence – there are still so many areas where assistance in all forms is a dire need.

Accordingly, when my 23 year son Jesse Mitica (adopted August 1990 from Calarasi) decided in late April to spend a month in Romania, I was more than eager to accompany him for a 2-week period, deciding to volunteer at a children’s home or mission.

Our plane tickets booked, Jesse’s family(ies) expecting him, my volunteer dossier completed and accepted, we set out with high expectations and happy hearts on May 22^nd.

Tomorrow’s installment of this story will begin the story of my trip, including seven days helping to care for 21 children from an institution for the handicapped. Consisting mostly of notes from my journal (which was actually nightly e-mails to my family at home), it will document how those seven days unfolded with a chain of events and experiences that went beyond anything I could ever have imagined.

Carlene

Countries: Romania

Persons: Vali Nas (Valentin Nas) (Liviu Valenas), Carlene Bryant

About Al Jazeera

Valentin Nas

Comment by Valentin Nas | 2007/09/09 at 06:06:49

> I was a little hard on U.S. media compared to their counterparts in other countries. I’ve been shocked when from time to time I’ve read stories in the UK press about adoption.

Forget about the UK press… You should see what the Romanian press is writing whenever the issue is international adoption. The offending terms you have listed in your post (and many others) have all originated from baroness Nicholson’s arsenal she used during her anti-international adoption crusade. The Romanian authorities and media have adopted the language she was using (very effectively, I must say) in order to convince the whole world that adoptive parents are thiefs and smugglers, that international adoption equals child trafficking and results only in child prostitution, pedophilia, banks of organs and other paranoid lies.

Thank you, Josh, for pointing out the interview and for your great comments.

Vali, Romania

Persons: Vali Nas (Valentin Nas) (Liviu Valenas)

The international adoption system, blocked by bureaucracy. Only 2 minors are close to have a family

From: Vali <

valinash@gmail.com

>;
To: Vali <

valinash@gmail.com

>;
Subject: [Romanian_Adoption] The international adoption system, blocked by bureaucracy
Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:57:56 PM

Countries: Romania

Persons: Vali Nas (Valentin Nas) (Liviu Valenas)

Egroup: Romanian citizenship and adoption

Re: [RO-maniacs] Re: Entering the EU Through the Back Door

"why was this provision needed, why withdraw the Romanian citizenship from children adopted abroad, when Romania accepts double citizenship?"

EXACTLY what crossed my mind, as I was reading your words. Could the logic be a holdover of the time when an emigre from communist Romania had to renounce their citizenship before being allowed to leave? I see no provision that forbids the child from reacquiring citizenship upon reaching adulthood in much the same way those communist-era emmigrants can. Could they not make the legal argument their permission was not obtained?

John

From: Vali <valinash@...>
To: RO-maniacs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, July 17, 2010 7:06:00 AM
Subject: RE: [RO-maniacs] Re: Entering the EU Through the Back Door

I have been researching the Romanian legislation, reading the articles of laws concerning the citizenship matter. Here is what I found:

First of all, here is what the Romanian Constitution says about Romanian citizenship:

"ARTICLE 5
(1) Romanian citizenship can be acquired, retained or lost as provided by the organic law.

(2) Romanian citizenship cannot be withdrawn if acquired by birth."

Now let's see what the specific organic law has to say about the loss of Romanian citizenship (Law no. 21 of March 1st 1991, modified and republished in the Official Bulletin no. 98 of March 6th 2000):

(I wasn't able to find any official translation, so please find below my translation of the relevant paragraph)

"CHAPTER V. Loss of Romanian citizenship

Art. 23. - Romanian citizenship is lost by:

a) withdrawal of Romanian citizenship;

b) approval of renunciation to Romanian citizenship;

c) in other cases provided for by law.

[...]

C. Other cases of loss of Romanian citizenship

Art. 28. - The under-age child, Romanian citizen, adopted by a foreign citizen, loses Romanian citizenship if, upon request made by the adopter or adopters, receives their citizenship in accordance with the foreign law. The minor who is over 14 years old is required his consent.

The date of loss of Romanian citizenship as detailed in the paragraph above is the date when the minor receives the adopter's citizenship.

In case the adoption is annuled or cancelled, it is considerred that the child under 18 years old has never lost Romanian citizenship. "

So the law clearly states that a Romanian child adopted by a foreign citizen loses Romanian citizenship if, upon request made by the adopter or adopters, receives their citizenship in accordance with the foreign law.

And since the adoptive parents need to make the child a legal citizen of their country (or re-adopt the child in their country), the child is forced by law to lose Romanian citizenship.

However, the question is this: why was this provision needed, why withdraw the Romanian citizenship from children adopted abroad, when Romania accepts double citizenship?

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Vali

Persons: Vali Nas (Valentin Nas) (Liviu Valenas)

Countries: Romania

JP Clement to Vali Nas on FB - sexual joke

Persons: Jean-Pierre Clement, Vali Nas (Valentin Nas) (Liviu Valenas)

Shocking disclosures from a Canadian volunteer

I made a promise to myself to translate into English and post the article based on Carlene's letter to the editor, published by "Cronica Gaestiului" (the local newspaper). I am sending it attached. The original article (in Romanian) is here: http://cronicagaestiului.sock.ro/news.php?extend.185. Please read the attached translation.

I apologize for any mistakes. However, I believe that my translation is pretty accurate. Please note that nowhere in this article is there any mention of the nurses belonging to the House of Angels. On the contrary, the 5 times when nurses or staff are referred to, the author adds that they are employed by the local Department for Child Protection. I am stressing this because Carlene has been accused of destroying 10 years of hard work by disclosing the truth:

"My Foundation has been discredited for the first time in 10 years because people don't know that the nurses you are talking about are the State nurses." (Simona Stewart, House of Angels founder)

It is not Carlene's fault that people were not informed. Who do you think should have informed the people that the nurses working at HoA were State nurses?

Organizations: House of Angels

Persons: Carlene Bryant, Simona Stewart, Vali Nas (Valentin Nas) (Liviu Valenas)