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From: "Arun Dohle" <arundohle@gmail.com>
Date: 14 Aug 2017 12:47
Subject: FB chat Sue walter
To: <infoagainstchildtrafficking@gmail.com>
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Hi Arun, I hope it's OK to write a private message. I am not sure of your connection with adoptions, or if you were adopted. I was very surprised that you mentioned the abortion aspect to the group. While this is true, I have never seen it written down before and I am very concerned about the adoptees and how this may affect them. I have struggled for many years wondering how to say this to them and not traumatize them. I was just curious about your thoughts on this. Now that it's out there, I will address it on the general feed.

Du hast Sues Anfrage angenommen.

I was the first person with IMH to go to the nursing home looking for abandoned children. I cannot describe in words the shock and horror that there were live birth abortions going on. These babies literally laid there and died until we came along. It was so shocking and unbelievable; our only focus was to save their lives and give them homes. Initially, we did not think about the birth -mothers and their presumptions; although The babies were in the same room with the women in process of having an abortion, and they did see us take the babies. I left, and I'm not certain of the date, but the mothers did start signing releases at some point.

Arun

I m adopted

and run

india.againstchilstrafficking.org

 

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sorry

typo

india.againstchildtrafficking.org

 

ACT India CRIB

CRIB – Connected Roots of India – The Backbone Are you an Indian adoptee in search for answers about your adoption, your story, and your Indian roots? Are you looking for your Indian family? Wondering if they can be traced? We were in the same #crib and, thanks to intercountry adoption, our identiti...

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where are the release forms you mention ?

thanks for contacting me

if you google my name

there is all out about me

I am happy to hear there are people like you who are actively trying to prevent trafficking. I can only say and you can believe it or not, that was never our intention. I have only heard of the releases, but was no longer in India when that happened.

Arun

i started with my own search

then set up

Do you feel most adoptees no of the abortion attempts?

Arun

www.againstchildtrafficking.org

 

Against Child Trafficking Inter-country adoption is a legalised form of child trafficking

Against Child Trafficking Since 2008, ACT (Against Child Trafficking) provides the evidence that inter-country adoption is a legalised form of child trafficking. ACT is critical of the Hague Adoption Convention as it results in a legalised market in children (see Perverse Effects of the Hague Conven...

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i don't understand

ok

you meant " know"

not " no"

got it

Those to whom that happened

will know

every cell in their bodies

might remember

even if not conscious

Trauma goes deep

i believe one can deal with it

once one consciously knows

I agree that at some level children now; however it's another to have it pointed out to them. We shall see if there are any post about this being a true Maddock realization. We did place children in India, but there weren't enough Indian families who wish to adopt. I have had many discussions especially with older children. I only know our motive was to save lives and hopefully enrich them.

I have wanted to share this information, but was always afraid to. Maybe it's good that we've had this conversation and it will help others.

Arun

yes

I ll be straightforward honest

i want every little peace of paper

related to this

if we cannot find back the mothers

i want a CBI investigation

i believe you

about. your motive

However some people may have had other motives

i m not grumpy about the past

however all #cribmates should be able to know the full truth

and be able to know their original identities

Let me be straight

i d appreciate an affidavit from you

Arun

are you 100 %

sure, that it were abortions ,?

not that the mother's were told something else ,? their babies died ,?

who translated for you ?

I do not have any documentation- here's what I know: I went in to the nursing home and asked for abandoned babies. They brought me into a room where there were four very tiny babies laying in one small crib. There was a row of about 10 women laying in beds having induced labor. The nurses said to choose one. I said I couldn't choose just one. They took me back to see Dr. Chatterjee and he said I could take all of them. Three of them we're about 3 pounds and one was 1.5 pounds. We had difficulty even finding a hospital that would care for them; we were not yet set up to do so at that time. We found a place; two of them survived two did not. I was so traumatized I could not return. I have not read all of your information, but I personally see a big difference between trafficking children and helping abandoned children find homes.

Arun

I d be traumatised like you

Seriously

So i do understand

There's s a full documentary

one of many

Then you may better get to know me

I would like to see the documentary. The women who wrote the article for the London newspaper, came over, stayed with us, cried with us when babies died. Shared their admiration for us in bringing these babies in and trying to save their lives. They then went back and wrote a horrible article, and left out all the good things. I trusted them, so now I'm a little leery.

Arun

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/catch-up-tv/undercover-asia-s4/manufactured-orphans-8864316

 

Manufactured Orphans

Nearly 90% of the estimated 143 million children in orphanages worldwide are not orphans at all. They are systematically bought, coerced, and stolen away from their birth families. The adoption industry is a huge market driven by money where orphans are ‘manufactured’. 

channelnewsasia.com

 

I m off to bed

almost 2am here

in India

catch up soon

and thanks for contacting

 

see attachment

The family raised a few concerns about the fact that Freddie told a lot of lies, but were told it was nothing to worry about

FOR most parents the idea of giving up a child is unbearable. But for Ian* and Rachael Meade* it was their only option.

They had dreamed of being parents for years but were unable to conceive and decided to adopt.

So they were delighted when, in 2014, they brought home brothers Freddie, eight, and Finn, four.

But eight years later the fairy tale had become a nightmare and the couple had to make the heart-breaking decision to return Freddie to care.

A swathe of parties on both sides of the government are calling for a crackdown on the adoption field after a new report reveals identity fraud on South Korean adoptees.

The identity changes meant that South Korean children were on paper orphaned when they were sent from South Korea to their new families in Denmark.

The conclusions in the report, made by the Danish Appeals Board, arouse resentment.

- I think it is quite obvious that the Danish authorities have failed fatally, says Victoria Velasquez, social advisor for Enhedslisten.

A WOMAN has shared how she discovered she was separated from her twin sister at birth and sold through an illegal adoption ring.

Ano Sartania, 21, was left stunned when she was reunited with her sister Amy thanks to a TikTok video but the real shock came when the pair found out they shared three more siblings.

Ano was reunited with Amy after 19 years after they were separated at birth

The twins born in June 2002, had been sold to an illegal adoption ring in Georgia

They reconnected thanks to a TikTok video after a friend noticed the resemblance

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Their adoptive parents had no idea that they were being tricked into the adoption, the sisters tell the Dutch daily Reformatorisch Dagblad. In 1979, there had been an official adoption procedure in court and by the notary.

In addition, a Dutch lawyer looked at the case as well. "Who would have thought that something was wrong?" the sisters point out. "The Indonesians were so sneaky: our parents did not get the translation of our papers until the day they went back to the Netherlands. Just imagine you're in a hot country with two little children; then you want to go home as soon as possible. And how could they have compared the translation with the original documents?"

Later, they discover irregularities in their official documents. Signatures do not match, and birth dates seem to be falsified. Then, a DNA test confirms their fears: the alleged sisters are not biologically related at all.

Abuses

A Dutch group that reunites children with their birth parents in Bangladesh is fighting to change the international adoption system

It was not long into a research trip to Bangladesh, on behalf of an organisation seeking to reunite children adopted abroad with their birth relatives, when Kana Verheul found herself huddled in a cafe toilet, comparing birthmarks with a stranger.

That trip seven years ago was one of many that Verheul, 47, had taken to the country of her birth since she was 16 years old, travelling back to Bangladesh for the first time as part of a “roots trip” organised by the Dutch government for children such as her, an orphan adopted to the Netherlands as a baby.

But this trip was different. After decades of trying in vain to find her siblings, Verheul joined forces with other people in her situation to set up an organisation called the Shapla Community, creating a network of hundreds of Bangladeshi adoptees raised in the Netherlands. If she could not find her own family, she could at least help others find theirs.

Is it really in the child's best interest that we send him to an institution so early? Or could we arrange our lives differently while we have small children? Hye Secher Marcussen believes that feminists should take the lead and secure better rights for children.

Hye Secher Marcussen's biological mother knew that she would not be allowed to keep her child if she gave birth to another girl.

Hye's biological father had decided that. The parents already had two girls, and he didn't want any more. He wanted a boy.

So when the mother gave birth to Hye and they saw she was a girl, they immediately adopted her.

Instead, they adopted a boy and made him theirs. They let the outside world understand that it was him with whom Hye's mother had been pregnant.

When Social Affairs Minister Pernille Rosenkrantz-Theil closed and switched off Denmark's only adoption agency on national television on 16 January, it was with the words:

"Significant crisis", "children who should not have been adopted", "children who have been trafficked".

Maya's story

Maja Tae Sook Dreyer , Schlicht Katharina (authors)

This is the story of a special woman and her self-discovery against all odds.
Maja doesn't know her parents, her birthday or her exact place of birth. Just a few weeks old, she was abandoned in Daegu (South Korea) in 1969. After two years in an orphanage in Seoul, she was placed in Germany for adoption.
Here, disturbing borderline experiences of strangeness, rejection, domestic violence, sexual assault and a suicide attempt determine her childhood.
She feels more and more clearly her unconditional will to live and her longing for belonging and a self-determined life in her new home. Therefore, the later encounter with her country of birth is not the focus of the novella. Rather, the authors illustrate in powerful scenes how Maja successfully fights for a fulfilled life despite lasting moments of inner conflict and the role her daughter, her husband and her job as a yoga teacher play in this.
It is also the story of the friendship of two women who at first glance seem very different. The past can be processed together, the present can be experienced and the future can be shaped.