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December 18, 2005

A Russian baby? That’ll be €17,000

IRISH couples are paying up to €17,000 to international agencies to locate children for adoption in Russia. The country is now the most popular for Irish people seeking to adopt abroad, even though there is no adoption treaty between Ireland and Russia.

The payment of such large fees has been criticised by the chairman of the International Adoption Agency, who says the Irish government should take measures to stop it.

“I find the issue of money in relation to this process distasteful,” said Kevin O’Byrne. “Intercountry adoption should be done through state-to-state agreement. We’re talking about children. The state has a responsibility to them and I don’t think the Department of Foreign Affairs has been active enough in establishing an agreement.”

Of the 398 intercountry adoptions last year, 189 were from Russia. This was three times more than the figure in 2000. A sound legal system, Caucasian children and a relatively speedy adoption process are being cited as reasons for Russia’s popularity.

“Russian people are very similar to the Irish in manner and culture,” said Derek Farrell of Irish Families for Russian Adoptions. “They like to sing, they like to drink. Sadly there are a lot of children for adoption but I would be positive about Russia because of its child protection laws.”

The ending of intercountry adoption from Romania and Belarus has also encouraged Irish people to turn to Russia. Romania has stopped adoptions due to pressures from the EU.

Ireland has bilateral agreements with China, Vietnam, Thailand and the Philippines. For couples adopting from Vietnam it can cost up to $8,000 (€6,600). From China, Thailand or the Philippines, the cost can be $1,500 (€1,250). The Adoption Board has sought a meeting with its Russian counterpart to discuss putting arrangements in place.

The lack of a treaty with Russia is not holding Irish couples back, however. Once they are declared fit by Irish authorities, many adopt independently in Russia. The absence of an agreement means some rely on expensive agencies, however.

“The downside is the presence of third-country adoption agencies,” agreed Farrell. “They charge huge amounts — to my knowledge one charges €16,800 as an international adoption fee. We’re a voluntary group accredited by the Adoption Board who assist people to adopt independently without charge.”

Annette and John Kenny from Cork adopted from Russia through Farrell’s group. Their sons, Simon, 6, and Luke, 5, were adopted from the same orphanage at the age of three.

“A friend of ours already had children from Russia and we saw how well they were progressing,” said Annette Kenny. “That confirmed Russia for us.

“We didn’t want to go through an agency and we got in touch with Derek and his wife Olga, who is Russian. It was more personal, not like a business.”

The existence of bilateral agreements with other countries does influence some couples, however. “One of the factors was the bilateral agreement,” said Shane Downer from Rathfarnham in Dublin who has applied to adopt from Vietnam.

“There is a facilitator there at the moment and the process is relatively clear and straightforward. When we applied, the referral times were three to six months, although that has now extended to six to 12 months.”

There has been an increase in adoptions from countries with a bilateral agreement — China went from 16 in 2000 to 60 in 2004. Vietnam peaked in 2003 at 39, dipping the following year after the Vietnamese suspended adoptions.

“Vietnam opened up and was discovered in 2000, and then it basically closed,” said Kiernan Gildea, the Adoption Board registrar. “It decided to review its procedures. We went out in 2003 to negotiate a new treaty which is in operation now.”

Time is also a factor in determining where people go to adopt a child. The assessment process in Ireland for eligibility can take between 18 months and three years, with more than 1,800 couples waiting to be assessed.

“What determines where people go is how soon they can effect the adoption,” said O’Byrne. “They will have been waiting on a health board assessment for up to three years, and once they have their documentation they will want to go to the place that can effect an adoption as expeditiously as possible.”

Some parents feel that a Caucasian or European child will feel more at home in Ireland. Farrell said this was one reason why Russia was increasingly popular. “The children are also well looked after in Russia, they’re good healthy children,” he said. “The process tends to be more transparent. You’re allowed into orphanages, which isn’t the case everywhere.”

Ann McElhinney, a journalist who has made a number of television documentaries about international adoption, said that although prospective parents are thoroughly checked out in Ireland, the weak link is the process used in the countries they adopt from.

“These adoptions cost large sums of money — which are absolute fortunes in impoverished countries such as Vietnam or some regions of Russia,” she said. “Besides being impoverished, these countries also are similar in that they are all internationally acknowledged as being among the most corrupt on the planet.

“Despite the rigorous checks and good intentions of Irish adoptive parents they can not be sure that the child is really available for adoption.”


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Baker Victory Sends Dossier to Colombia

On December 14, my paperwork went to Colombia. While the courts will be closed from December 15, 2005 to January 15, 2006, the documents will be translated during this time.

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U.S. Backs European Request for Romanian Adoptions To Proceed

16 December 2005
U.S. Backs European Request for Romanian Adoptions To Proceed
European Parliament, United States ask that pending adoptions be resolved

 

 

 

By Vince Crawley
Washington File Staff Writer

The United States has welcomed a vote by the European Parliament asking that Romania resolve international-adoption cases registered during Romania’s 2001-2004 moratorium on foreign adoptions "with the goal of allowing inter-country adoptions to take place, where justified and appropriate …."
“We call upon the Romanian government to use transparent and objective criteria in resolving these cases in a manner that serves the best interests of the individual children involved,” State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said in a December 16 statement.
“The goal should be to find permanent, loving homes for the children,” McCormack said.
Under pressure from the European Union (EU), Romania in 2001 imposed a moratorium on foreign adoptions after allegations of corruption of officials involved in the adoption process. In 2004, Romania passed a law banning adoptions by all foreigners except relatives of the children. That law went into effect January 1, 2005.
However, the United States and other countries have asked that the Romanian government allow the completion of adoption procedures that already were under way when the restrictions went into effect. Some 1,100 children, most of whom live in state-run orphanages, are affected. (See related article.)
The U.S.  Helsinki Commission, which monitors human rights, held a hearing September 14 to highlight the problem of the pending adoptions. (See related article.)
Radio Free Europe reported December 14 that Romania Prime Minister Calin Popescu-Tariceanu stands by the current adoption law and said authorities will instead promote adoptions within the country. Popescu-Tariceanu said the new law meets EU standards “which put the children’s interest first, and not those of the possible adoptive parents.”
In April, the European Union signed an accession treaty with Romania with the goal of membership in January 2007. However, the EU has warned that Romania’s accession by that date is not guaranteed and depends on making substantial progress in dealing with issues of corruption, competition and the country’s judicial system.
On December 15, the European Parliament, which monitors human rights in Eastern and Central Europe, called on Romania to resolve international adoption cases that had been registered during the 2001-2004 moratorium. The European Parliament said these cases should be resolved “with the goal of allowing inter-country adoptions to take place, where justified and appropriate.”
(The Washington File is a product of the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov)



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Forum: members-l] Synopsis of Symposium on Children Without Parental Care

members-l] Synopsis of Symposium on Children Without Parental Care Chronological Thread < Chronological > < Thread > Reply to sender to list From: Hwall334@aol.com To: members-L@lists.jcics.org Subject: [members-l] Synopsis of Symposium on Children Without Parental Care 

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:57:08 EST 2nd World Conference on Children without Parents November 9-11, 2005 Boston (Worcester), Massachusetts, USA Conference Synopsis The conference launched on Wednesday, November 9. 2005, at 9:00 a.m., in Worcester, Massachusetts, USA. The conference marked the second gathering of international child welfare policy and decision-making professionals aimed at exchanging information about the realities of children without parents on a global scale. The functional goal of the conference was not only the exchange of critical information but to outline and begin to establish globally accepted best practices for more efficient programs and policies that serve the "best interest of a child" in need. The organizations supporting the conference through sponsorship and participation were International Advocates for Children (IAC), Focus on Adoption (FOA), and Center for Adoption Research (CAR). 

The Harvard University Law School Child Advocacy Program sponsored one of the key workshops and debates on the school campus. The attendees of the conference included child welfare policymakers, government officials in charge of child welfare infrastructures, researchers and experts from the fields of law, medicine, psychology, economics, and decision science, and non-governmental organizations. These stakeholders represented 31 countries including Azerbaijan, Netherlands, Vietnam, Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Republic of Georgia, New Zealand, Italy, Germany, Argentina, Lesotho, Sweden, Armenia, Moldova, Ukraine, Romania, Pakistan, Mongolia, The Philippines, Russia, Kazakhstan, Bahamas, USA, Nicaragua, Latvia, Hungary, Poland, Belgium and Thailand. The meeting commenced with Lynda Lee Smith, Executive Director of IAC, welcoming the 115 delegates with sentiments of thanks to all of the countries and hope for the positive influence that this group can have in the future of children without parents. Hannah Wallace, President of Focus on Adoption, followed with her expressions of support for IAC's efforts and hope for real outcomes from the conference. Debra Chaison-Demers, Executive Director of Center for Adoption Research at the University of Massachusetts, wrapped up the welcome with her support based on the success of the 2004 conference in Atlanta and her hope that this conference would result in even further steps being made in the efforts for children without parents. 

The first two speakers were Justin Webb, age 14, adopted from Romania at one month old, and Larry Adams, age 56, who grew up in the "temporary" foster care system in the US from birth to adulthood without the benefits of a permanent family in his life. These two gentlemen were present during the conference to represent the "voice of the child" throughout the conference and to make certain that all discussions were focused on "best interest of child" from the child's perspective and NOT the adult perspective. Mr. Jacob Doek, Chairman of the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC), a lawyer, and a judge, followed as keynote speaker. Mr. Doek focused his talk on The Need for Clarification of Conventions, Data Collection, and Reporting of Factual Information. He defined children without parental care to include orphans, social orphans, abandoned children, street children, AIDS orphans, and generally children without parental care. He noted the difficulty in collecting accurate data on a global scale and the reporting of factual information in regards to the reality of children without parental care. He specifically pointed out that all options for children must be considered and that the options for children vary based on the country. He placed emphasis on the option of intercountry adoption stating that while intercountry adoption benefits a small percentage of the total global group of children without parental care other options must be available for the majority of children in which intercountry adoption is not an option for many reasons. Making reference to children in Africa being left as head of households for entire sibling groups due to the AIDS epidemic, he challenged the group to develop and support best practices that offer solutions for all children in need of parental care. Dr. Mary Hansen, Professor of Economics at American University, and a research fellow at Center for Adoption Research, discussed the Economics of Policy-Making. Dr. Hansen presented an interesting perspective on making decisions and choosing options for children without parental care. She presented charts to show the cost to governments for making certain options and a need for achieving a balance in options for children based on the financial resources available from the government. Based on available financial resources, she demonstrated how some options become more viable than others to achieve. These factors must be considered when building child welfare models for specific countries. Dr. Sara Dillon, Professor of Law at Stanford University, addressed the Misperceptions of Intercountry Adoption. She gave specific examples of misleading information that has been fed to the media and government officials concerning intercountry adoptions. This information has lead to mistrust and ultimately a negative image of intercountry adoption. The majority of accusations are absolutely false and a few are based on exceptions to the rule. She stressed that the majority of intercountry adoptions are a great success and a wonderful option for children in need of parents. She holds a few of the key global children's organizations responsible for supporting and feeding the misinformation and not taking action to collect the facts. 

Lynda Smith, IAC Executive Director, and Maarten Brekelmans, General Manager of the Dutch IAC office, gave a brief introduction to the creation of a world council to be discussed in more detail the final day of the conference. The overview served to allow the delegates to consider the proposal prior to the final discussion. Rodolfo Rivera, international lawyer, spoke on the Practical Aspects of Implementing the Hague Convention. He pointed out the key areas that are vague and have lead to misinterpretation by many ratifying countries. There are those who believe that the Hague Treaty is the answer to eliminating the "sale of children," while others believe it is an unnecessary and ineffectual "cure." Has it hurt more than helped? The pro and anti Hague factions all agree on one thing--the best interest of the child is paramount. The differences arise in defining just what "best interest" means and the manner in which it will be implemented. Dr. Tom Whalen, Professor of Fuzzy Logic (decision science) at Georgia State University, presented How to Know What to Do showing the history of man's evolution of decision-making tools going back to the development of the lead pencil. The walk through the development and advancement of decision making tools allowed delegates to realize the limitations of the human brain in making complex decisions such as a placement decision for a child. Over the past century, the advancement of tools has expanded the abilities of the human mind to "juggle" multiple considerations. Today, with technology combined with decision science principles, critical decisions such as weighting options for a child placement can be accurately suggested based on an unlimited number of criteria. A series of workshops were then held: 1) Professor Rene Hoksbergen, Professor of Psychology at Utrecht University; Netherlands, conducted a workshop on the Effects of Neglect. 2) Dr. Tom Whalen, Professor of Fuzzy Logic at Georgia State University, USA, conducted a workshop on Screening Families, Placing Children: an Exercise with Tools of Thought. 3) Dr. Sara Dillon, Professor of Law at Suffolk University, USA, conducted a workshop on In-depth into the Misperceptions of Intercountry Adoptions. 4) Dr. Mary Hansen, Professor of Economics at the American University, USA, conducted a workshop on Country Specific Issues. 5) Dr. Monica Bouman, Psychologist in the Netherlands, and Maarten Brekelmans, General Manager of the IAC Dutch office, conducted a workshop on Lasting Solutions and Serving Leadership. The delegates then attended Harvard University Law School for an open debate with Mr. Jacob Doek, Chairman of the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child and Dr. Jane Aronson, Adoption Medicine Specialist, facilitated by Dr. Elizabeth Bartholet, Harvard Professor of Law. The debate clearly showed two different perspectives on solutions for children without parents. Mr. Doek's perspective naturally indicated a strong need for policy implementation and working through the existing government structure while Dr. Aronson emphasized a need for an "on the ground" approach with little dependence on government assistance. Law students from Harvard Law School joined the delegates in a series of questions for the two experts after the debate. On the final day of the conference, country delegates were offered an opportunity to share reports from their respective countries. Over ten countries shared a brief overview of the current situation on children without parents during this time. Susanna Luarca, attorney in Guatemala, presented Efficiency in Placement highlighting many of the challenges specifically in Guatemala. The core of the presentation focused on the ability of the child welfare system to place infants and young children in permanent families in a timely manner. The emphasis on time to placement results in less psychological trauma to the child and promotes the best interest of the child. 

The Speech of Honorable Christopher H. Smith of New Jersey on the U. S. House of Representatives. December 14, 2005.

Romanian Adoption

The Speech of Honorable Christopher H. Smith of New Jersey on the U. S. House of Representatives. December 14, 2005.

Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Speaker, last month I introduced a resolution, H. Res. 578, expressing disappointment that the Government of Romania has instituted a virtual ban on intercountry adoptions that has very serious implications for the welfare and well-being of orphaned or abandoned children in Romania . As Co-Chairman of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (the Helsinki Commission), I am pleased to be joined as original cosponsors by the Commission's Ranking House Member, Representative CARDIN, fellow Commissioners Representative PITTS and PENCE as well as Chairman of the International Relations Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere Representative BURTON, and Representative NORTHUP, COSTELLO, JO ANN DAVIS, TIAHRT, BRADLEY and FRANK.

Mr. Speaker, the children of Romania , and all children, deserve to be raised in permanent families. Timely adoption of H. Res. 578 will put the Congress on record:

Supporting the desire of the Government of Romania to improve the standard of care and well-being of children in Romania ;

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Kinder aus Haiti werden gern von Ausländern adoptiert. Inzwischen ist das ein Geschäft geworden

Klaus Ehringfeld

Stratham woman among those shut out of Romanian adoption

STRATHAM—Rep. Jeb Bradley, in response to an article in today's Bucharest (Romania) Daily News, said that he's extremely disappointed with that government's failure to approve pending international adoptions.

He added, however, that he had not received official confirmation of the denial.

Several of the adoptions have involved New Hampshire families including Allyson Schaaf of Stratham, who in 2002 began the process to adopt Natasha, a Romanian orphan.

Bradley, Schaaf and others including members of the Windham, N.H.-based group Nobody's Children have lobbied Romania's president and other high-ranking officials to approve some 200 adoptions by American families.

Today the Bucharest newspaper says authorities will not approve the 1,100 international adoption requests received the past four years.

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Everyday Life in the Bishkek Baby House

Erica Merrell, December 3, 2005

For my last post, I wanted to write about the baby house (orphanage) I visit often. I’m not trying to make any kind of point here; I’m just giving a brief glimpse into the lives of a few little ones far away from most of you.

There are around 100-120 children in the government baby house, the only one in Bishkek. Many of the children were abandoned, but some have mothers who often visit, and others’ mothers formally gave up their parental rights.

The baby house is on the southeast edge of Bishkek where there are individual houses instead of apartment buildings. There is beautiful landscaping along with a playground. The building is very clean, and while not particularly nice, is perfectly adequate. It never smells very fresh inside, but it’s more a sour milk smell than a dirty smell. Each group of babies has a sleeping room filled with rows of cribs, a playing/eating room with tables for feeding the babies and two large playpens, and the toilet room.

The children are technically divided by age (but more realistically by ability) into groups of 10-12; there are three groups of babies. Children usually leave the baby house when they turn four. There are far more boys than girls in my group, but the social worker said last year there were more girls than boys. There are usually three women assigned to each group, although I’ve seen four when a group has its full 12 babies. At night one nurse is with the babies to feed them and change them.

The babies come and go. Altinai turned one and moved on to the older group, Shairah was adopted, and Misha’s mother was able to take him home. A few have joined the group too; Janad, Murad, Violeta, and Islam have all come in the last few weeks.

Belek’s mother visits often, at least once a week. She comes to the door and the women bundle Belek up in a big coat and hat. They go outside where his mother spends about an hour with him. She often brings crackers for him. Once I had Diana (one of the babies, pronounced dee-AH-nah) outside and Belek’s mother gave Diana a cracker. It was clearly the first time she’d ever eaten something with her own hands even though she almost one.

I always visit in the afternoon around two. The babies are just waking up from a nap and ready to eat. The older children get frantic while they are sitting in their chairs waiting for their food. Most of the babies are quick and easy to feed, except Diana, who is into everything. The older babies usually have a mixture of mashed potatoes, ground meat, and scrambled eggs. We attempt to give them apple juice, but they only have cups and it’s nearly impossible to get a 7-month-old to drink juice out of a cup. The younger babies have milk with various things mashed up inside. The bottles are difficult to use because they get clogged with the bits of meat or grain.

After they eat, the older babies are tied onto the toilets (you might call them potty chairs) for a while. While this might sound appalling, it’s nowhere near as bad as it sounds. They are tied on so they can’t crawl away or fall off their chair. The point is to train them to go at a certain time to make orphanage life run a little more smoothly. By the time they’re two, they’ll be so well trained that if they are adopted, they will still need to go to the bathroom at certain times of the day without fail (a little tricky when you consider the different time zones). It’s not something I’d promote anyone doing, but I understand why it’s done in the baby house.

The timing seems to be rather arbitrary, but after being taken off the toilets, the older babies are put into a very large playpen where they crawl and walk and play. This is one of my favorite times because they are looking for attention and it’s fun to go around and play with each one. Belek will stubbornly walk around and around the edge do matter how many times he falls, Diana will crawl over anyone in her path, Vova rolls all around, Arsin lies quietly and smiles, Violeta does anything she can to move around, and Isin is oblivious to everything. The babies pay more attention to each other than babies usually do. One day Arsin and Vova ended up in the same corner and laughed and laughed with each other.

The younger babies are laid down in a different playpen after they eat. They roll around sometimes and play. It’s fun when all five are lined up- Janad, Askar, Jamal, Bolod, and Islam. I can get them all laughing and can touch two of them at the same time. I’ll sometimes take one or two outside if I can get them bundled up enough. The nurses are very strict about the babies wearing plenty of clothes, even when it was 95 degrees outside.

This is basically their day. They eat, sleep, and are left alone to play. They have never been rocked to sleep, given a bath, read to, or eaten a cracker. The nurses will sing to them and sometimes pick up one that is especially fussy, but they usually aren’t touched except when they are eating or being transferred from one place to another. I’ll often rub their heads and faces when they are sad. Just touching them seems to calm them more than anything. Some other volunteers do baby massage with another group of babies, but I don’t think anyone does with my group.

Each baby has all the basics- except someone, anyone, to think she is the most important child in the world. Certainly they are loved. The nurses take good care of them; some are excellent. But I don’t think it’s enough. I wish there were more I could do for them, but I think the little I am able to do helps.

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27 Responses to “Everyday Life in the Bishkek Baby House”

  1. Erica,

    I’m crying as I read this. It brought back all the memories of the summer I spent at a baby orphanage in Romania. The kids used to love it when I would sing primary songs with them–especially the ones with fun body movements and hand gestures. They also really loved the tune of “I am a Child of God,” but I usually couldn’t make it past the “with parents kind and dear” line.

    Oh, my heart just aches for them, and for all your babies. God bless you for all that you are doing. And may angels always accompany you to the baby house.

  2. Thank you, Erica, for sharing this with us. I admire your way of describing it all. Factual, but much left to interpretation and imagination. At the same time, I appreciate you also point out positive things. From our complacent and “advanced” West we have a tendency to consider those places as basically horrible, but I think there is also appreciation to be given for what is being done in spite of limitations and circumstances. Also, again, thank you so much for your wonderful posts that gave Times and Seasons a truly international perspective.

  3. It’s been a long time since I’ve visited an orphanage. The only time was on Christmas day 1984.

    But I have often had very similar feelings when visiting nursing homes. So many virtually helpless people, and so much good that needed doing, but so few people to do it. It’s so overwhelming that the fear of drowning in it has caused me (or been my lame excuse) to do less than what I could.

  4. What would have to happen for an American to adopt one of these babies and please don’t tell my husband that I asked this question?

  5. Thank you, Maria and Wilfried. I enjoyed your story, Bookslinger. Thanks for linking to it.

  6. Julie, it is possible to adopt from here, but it can be a little harder than some other countries because there isn’t a lot of experience here with international adoption. The State Department website has no information about adopting from Kyrgyzstan.

    The adoptions that I am aware of are by missionaries or volunteers living in Bishkek. They have gone through a local social worker. It may well be possible for a family who doesn’t live here to go through her instead of an agency. She speaks English well and wants to get these children into good homes. There are few agencies working here, but I don’t know much about them. Frank Foundation (www.frankadopt.org) is probably the best bet if you really want an agency, but I’d highly recommend checking carefully into them and talking to parents who have worked with them, whether they adopted or not. Find out how many adoptions they have actually completely from Kyrgyzstan and check into their required fees. Kyrgyzstan shouldn’t cost as much as Kazakhstan.

    An agency should take you through the whole process, but if you did it on your own, you’d need to complete a home study in the US and complete the required INS paperwork. You would probably need to make two trips to Kyrgyzstan, one to choose the child you want to adopt and get the process started, and another to pick them up and go to court and to the embassy in Kazakhstan, the nearest US embassy that processes adoptions.

    If someone were truly interested in more information, I can ask the local social worker.

  7. I understand that adoption from those countries has become increasingly difficult, not to speak of the financial gain some instances try to make of it, even the official ones. To make things worse, I heard anti-Mormon propaganda is spreading horror stories of what happens to children adopted in those households in the Mormon West. I have no experience in this field, but it seems http://lds.adoption.com/ offers adequate information and help. They have an international section.

  8. I heard a mother on the news the other night who had recently adopted a teenager from Haiti who had lost both of his legs, but had the blessing of receiving two prostheses by the hand of her husband who had been visiting on a doctors abroad type mission (which of course lead to the adoption). At the conclusion of this interview, this women (who my wife guesses is LDS. We live in MN, so my money says they are Lutheran) said that their family is now complete with the arrival of this member.

    As a father, I understand this woman. Even though (and I am in no way bragging) we have adopted a nephew, had two of our own, and are in the process of adopting a 2nd nephew, I can tell you that my family still does not feel complete. I look forward to the day that we can add more of these little ones to our family as we look for that point of completion.

    My heart goes to the them because of your story. Thank you for sharing.

  9. Thanks for your comments, Chance. I do think adoption is a good way to create a family, and one that is too often overlooked except in cases of infertility.

    There are some major obstacles to international adoption from FSR’s like Wilfried points out. Kazakhstan has allowed international adoptions for a long time, but it has recently become more difficult as judges in different areas apply laws differently and as the media has become increasingly negative.

    The financial gain is a big problem. KZ requires a $15,000 fee (in addition to other fees) that is in large part supposed to go to the orphanages, but I have no confidence that any money in Central Asia actually gets to its intended destination. Many parents end up bribing various government officials to be able to complete their adoptions.

    There’s also the good old bait-and-switch, where an agency shows you a picture of a charming baby and then when you get there, that baby doesn’t actually exist or isn’t adoptable. You can either choose a different child (which is actually what you’re supposed to do in KZ; referrals are illegal there) or go home. A careful couple should be able to avoid corrupt agencies though by doing plenty of research and using an agency with an excellent reputation. That’s my concern about agencies in KG since there is no agency with enough experience here to have an excellent reputation in Kyrgyzstan. Maybe they are great in Russia or Kazakhstan, but in-country experience is necessary.

    Kyrgyzstan really is a little harder to adopt from because it is almost impossible to find out what the laws actually are and there is very little precedent to be able to predict what might happen here. However, the fees aren’t as unreasonable as those in KZ, although I still wouldn’t bet that they’d be used for what they were supposed to be used for (for example, you’re supposed to pay $1,000 per year that the child was in the orphanage and that is supposed to go back into the system).

    The best thing though is that I feel that the baby house administrators want these children adopted. The government isn’t putting up a lot of obstacles right now. The biggest problem really is that there international adoption isn’t very common here. General international adoption information is helpful, but country-specific information is vital, and it’s hard to find here.

  10. Erica, thank you very, very much for this look into a part of the world few of us hear about much less visit. Your posts have been excellent.

  11. In a district I served in towards the end of my mission in Korea, we spent time visiting an orphanage/home for mentally handicapped children; some of them had spent their entire lives in the facility. We couldn’t do much–play with them, talk with them; one sister had a childlike, severely damaged older boy latch onto her hand, and she just held it back for hours. Still, the staff seemed so grateful for us. It was one of the few things I did on my mission that I look back on as a true, unprideful, unambiguous, Christian good.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Erica, and prompting some good but bittersweet memories of my own.

  12. Erica, I’ve been thinking about your post so much over the last couple of days–I just can’t get those babies out of my mind. I don’t really have much to add, but thought you should know how thought provoking this post (and all your posts) have been.

    Karen

  13. Once Erica’s guestblogging stint is over, be sure to head over to her blog for more posts like this one.

  14. Bryce, you should have warned everyone that she has some seriously cute pictures of babies posted there.

  15. My husband and I are considering adoption in Kyrgyzstan. Any comments about agencies in the U.S. that are allowed to handle this type of adoption.

  16. Julie is right, you guys. Brace yourselves. Amira, wonderful post. I am smiling and crying. And feeling so helpless.

  17. Hi, my husband and I are considering adopting from Kyrgyzstan, and in my research on the web, I stumbled upon these postings! I am happy to have found these postings, because there is little information on Kyrg adoption. My husband and I are currently in a holding pattern for adopting from Kazakhstan, we started the process 10 months ago, and are in a holding pattern because of the new Kaz regulations. So that is why we are considering switching to Kyrg. Like Kim, I would like information about adopting from Kyrg. Also, I am new to these types of postings on a website. Who is Erica, and is she in Kyrg trying to adopt right now? How do I get to see the photos that everyone is talking about? Forgive me for my confusion! Thank you.

  18. Hi, I am so happy to read all of your postings – I stumbled upon them while using google to look into adopting from Kyrg! My husband and I have been trying to adopt from Kaz for 10 months now – our dossier was actually at the Kaz embassy in D.C. but then it was sent back because of the new regulations. It has become very difficult with Kaz now, so we are considering switching to Kyrg. Like Kim, I would like more info if anyone has it. Also, forgive me, but I am confused about what this website is that you are all posting messages on (Times and Seasons – Comments on Everyday Life in the Bishkek Baby House)? Erica, are you in Kyrg right now? How do I get to view the photos that everyone is talking about? Thank you!

  19. Future Mom–sorry your comment got buried; I hope those with the right information will be able to get in touch with you. Erica does live in Kyrgyzstan, and she blogs regularly here. She isn’t planning on adopting a child in Kyrgyzstan so far as I know, but has volunteered regularly there over the past several months. She has a lot of information on her website.

  20. Thanks, Russell! I’m sorry for posting 2 messages, everybody – I had thought that my first one didn’t get posted! What is the url for Erica’s website?

  21. Future mom:

    http://amiralace.blogspot.com/

    Good luck!

  22. Kim and Future Mom (and anyone else),

    I just saw your posts. You can find my email address at my website that Russell and Julie both linked to. There is very little information about adopting here and you will run into problems because the laws are not well known. The families we have known who have adopted have had a difficult time and they didn’t go through US agencies. I don’t know all the ins and outs since we haven’t adopted yet, but feel free to email me with any questions you might have and I’ll try to answer them or see if I can find out the answers.

  23. yet? (grin)

  24. I have always been interested in adoption and doing volunteer work in orphanages. For that reason, I review the precious.org/child-page on the net. They show a photo listing of many different agencies adoptable children from various countries. Last week, there was a photo of a child from Kyrgystan. He is deaf and if he’s not adopted, they will soon send him to an orphanage for older children with all kinds of physical and mental disabilties. He certainly won’t have much of a future if they do this. As I read through the postings today, I noted that it was against the country regulations to post photos of their adoptable children. I was going to see if I could help find this boy a home in the states, but now I wonder if the agency is legitimate. Perhaps they are a good agency and decided to post his listing because his situation is so unique? What is your take on this?

  25. I have adopted two boys from KAZ. and have just heard about a Kyrgystan program run by ChristianWorldAdoptions. http://www.cwa.org I know nothing about them as I used a different agency but they may have some good info.

    Cate

  26. Hi! We are missionaries too, living in Mongolia. But we used to live in Kazakstan and have visited Kyrgyzstan twice! I am really interested–is it Erika? in a response, on this or in private, to what you mentioned in 6. You see, we speak Kazakh–so similar to Kyrgyz, fairly fluently (have studied for 7 years and live among K.’s in the west here). We want to adopt again, and would love it to be Kyrgyzstan but we need to get in touch with the M.’s or volunteers in Bishkek that have done it. We feel we don’t need an agency, as long as that’s Ok with the government. But this social worker that speaks English..she’d be a gold mine. Could you please pass on any info. of contacts you have who’ve adopted who live in Bishkek, or the name and email of the social worker? We’d be SOOO grateful! Feel free to pass on our email too. Thanks for all the volunteer work at baby houses you do..we did a lot, too north of you. Sincerely, Sarah Mechler, [edited] or the above email address

  27. Sarah, I’m the same person (Amira) that you emailed earlier about adopting from Kyrgyzstan. I hope you got my email then. I talked to the social worker and she can’t help with more adoptions. In fact, one that she has helped with isn’t going well despite her best efforts. Even though KG is starting to be talked about in adoption circles, the fact remains that fewer than 10 children have been adopted from here to the US in the last 2 years. The adoption laws were just changed too.

    I’ve written more about adopting from Kyrgyzstan here: http://amiralace.blogspot.com/2006/01/adopting-from-kyrgyzstan.html

    This includes information on the two agencies currently certified in Kyrgyzstan.